A True Conservative Analysis of the 2014 Midterm Elections

By Ryan S. Walters

Even before the votes were cast, I had already decided not to write an election analysis for the 2014 midterms. Honestly, I was actually glad to see it come and go. But seeing some of the pure silliness pervading the net I quickly changed my mind.

One piece in particular caught my eye, and not because of the personal attack against me and other good conservatives who are spearheading the movement.  Alan Lange at Y’all Politics had an interesting, and wrong-as-usual, take on Cochran’s victory:

“It’s hard to overstate how impressive a 20 point victory in this sort of anti-incumbent environment is.  … [T]his was a butt-whooping of historic proportions given the circumstances and one I thought we’d be unlikely to see. Even with as poor and unqualified a candidate as Travis Childers was.”

I found it most interesting that Travis Childers is now a “poor and unqualified candidate” but all we heard for months was how bad he would have beaten Chris McDaniel had they faced off in the general election.

But, that aside, let’s look at the Cochran-Childers race with a bit more detail and show Lange that, yes, you can overstate this race and you just did!

Cochran did indeed win by 20 points with 59 percent and a total of 370,208 votes. Lange calls that a “butt-whooping” but not so fast there my liberal friend!

In previous elections, though, Cochran did much better. In 1996 his vote total was 71 percent and 624,154 votes, and 2008 he won 766,111 and nearly 62 percent of the vote. Those were presidential election years so the vote totals are always much higher. But in the 2002 midterm, he had 533,269 votes and won a total of nearly 85 percent of all votes cast.  And 2002 was nothing like 2014 in terms of voter anger.

So you can easily see that this was by far Cochran’s worst general election showing, particularly in a midterm, in what has turned out to be one of the biggest Republican election years in history.  And, I should add, with very low voter turnout across the state, which can only mean that a lot of McDaniel supporters stayed home.

But I will agree with one thing Lange said: Childers was a “poor and unqualified candidate” who would have been beaten worse by Senator McDaniel, who did gain 60 percent of Republican voters in the June run-off. If the Democrats in Mississippi had anything like a decent candidate, Thad might have had some trouble.

Lange also goes on to make another interesting comment:

“In the news coverage in the last 48 hours, there was a consistent theme of how important it was to defeat McDaniel in the runoff for Republicans nationally. Had McDaniel been the standard bearer all of the crazy stuff we were dealing with would have been used on the national stage to try and prove that Republican were zealots. The path to Senate control rolled clearly through Mississippi on June 24 and had Mississippi voters not responded as they did, I feel pretty strongly looking back that we would not have awoken this morning to a Senate control by the Republican Party.” 

This logic is off-the-charts strange. So if Chris McDaniel had been the GOP nominee in Mississippi, none of this success would have happened across the country? This falls in line with a New York Times hit piece on Senator McDaniel, showcased by Y’all, where they surmised that the Democrats would have used McDaniel as the poster boy for all Republicans and labeled every Republican candidate as a “mini-McDaniel.” The reason the Times gave was McDaniel’s “history of making sexist and racially insensitive remarks” on his radio show.

The Times wrote that candidates “like Scott Brown, running for the Senate in New Hampshire, called the National Republican Senatorial Committee to complain that if Mr. McDaniel was not stopped, he could drag the whole party down.”  But Brown worried about McDaniel’s conservative comments, not about any references that might be racist or sexist.  And we all know that Scott Brown was no true conservative and lost a second US Senate bid on Tuesday, this time in New Hampshire to a weak and vulnerable Jeanne Shaheen.

Now, let’s look at this silly radio business a bit deeper.  Chris McDaniel hosted a radio talk for more than three years for two hours a day and the only thing his opponents could find was one instance where he said “mamacita,” which is actually a compliment in Spanish, and another where he said “boobies.”  In fact, there are many Mexican restaurants in Texas that use the “mamacita” name.  I bet you didn’t know that!  And as for the “boobies” reference, McDaniel was actually reading from a news story, so it was not his words.  And like all talk radio shows, on both the left and right, much of what is said is tongue-in-cheek comments, and these little nothing comments were made nearly a decade ago.

Even Slate.com, a very liberal publication, called the attacks on Senator McDaniel “unfair.”  Lange, though, seems to forget he’s not in New York (where I’m sure he would feel more at home); he’s in Mississippi, and such remarks would have made very little difference in any election. Cochran’s team trotted them out, not once, but twice during the primary season and they flopped both times! It didn’t move the needle one inch in the polls!  People have more important things to worry about than what someone said in jest on a radio show a decade ago.

Along with his nod to the Times is Lange’s near-euphoric belief in Cochran’s “impressive victory” in this “anti-incumbent environment.”

But this was NOT an anti-incumbent environment. That’s the line being used on MSNBC and CNN, so when you consider this statement, along with the New York Times hit piece, I guess we now know where Lange gets his news.

This was an anti-Democratic year and a repudiation of Barack Obama and his party. People are really upset with the direction of this country and that’s where they lay the blame. In fact, Democratic candidates who espoused such liberal causes as gun control, global warming, and abortion, and had major financial backing from those special interest groups, lost big time.

As a result of this mood, Republicans swept the entire country, and would have even if Chris McDaniel had headed the ticket in Mississippi. Case in point: only one major GOP incumbent lost a re-election bid, and that was Pennsylvania Governor Tom Corbett.

And even where the Democrats had star power, they lost. Jimmy Carter’s grandson, Jason, lost a bid for Georgia governor, and Sam Nunn’s daughter lost her bid for a US Senate seat there as well.  Mark Udall, of the famous Udall family out west, lost his Senate seat in Colorado.  Wendy Davis was wiped out in the Texas governor’s race, as was Sandra Fluke in California, who came crashing down with a 39 percent showing in her bid for a state senate seat. Where the Clintons showed up, especially Hillary, Democrats lost and lost huge in most races.

As of this writing, Republicans have a net gain of seven US Senate seats, with Sullivan ahead in Alaska by more than 8,000 votes. Virginia is, quite unexpectedly, still tight and too close to call, while Louisiana is headed to a run-off, where Landrieu is expected to lose, especially since she won just 40 percent of the vote. So it’s at least conceivable that the GOP might gain as many as 9 or even 10 seats. That’s pretty remarkable.

The Republicans also added to their US House total and will control nearly 250 seats, their largest bloc since Herbert Hoover was in the White House. Such a majority will take several election cycles to reverse, maybe even decades. In one side note, Arkansas now has a House delegation that is totally in Republican hands for the first time in 141 years.

Aside from the loss in Pennsylvania, Republicans picked up more governorships and now control 32 statehouses. What is particularly shocking is that the GOP won governor’s races in three heavily blue states – Massachusetts, Maryland, and Illinois.

But in my mind it was the state legislatures that really showed the Republican wave. Republicans gained control of more chambers: Colorado Senate, New Mexico House, West Virginia House, both Nevada houses, New Hampshire House, Minnesota House, New York Senate, with several more still pending and undecided. As of now Republicans control a record 67 state legislative chambers.

Republicans now have total control of 24 states, where they hold the governor’s mansion and both chambers of the state legislature.  By contrast, Democrats only have such control in 6 states. And it’s in the individual states, like Texas, where the best reforms are taking place, not in Washington.

In a side note, Wendy Davis’s old senate seat in Fort Worth went to a Republican woman, Konni Burton, who is one of those fanatical Tea Partiers. In West Virginia, 18-year-old college student Saira Blair won election to the state house of representatives running as a very conservative pro-life candidate. She’s the youngest ever elected to the state house.

So in terms of state legislative control, the Democrats are at their weakest since the 1920s.

And how about the makeup of the upcoming GOP congressional caucus? The “war on women” is now dead, as well as the race card, or at least it should be. Democratic women were trounced nation-wide: Allison Lundergan-Grimes, Kay Hagan, Michelle Nunn, Amanda Curtis, Wendy Davis, Martha Coakley, Mary Burke, and Sandra Fluke were all beaten. Yet Republicans elected a host of women: Joni Ernst in Iowa, Shelley Moore Capito in West Virginia, and Elise Stefanik, who became the youngest female ever elected to the US House at age 30, just to name a few.

Several prominent African Americans were also elected on the GOP ticket. Tim Scott won election to the US Senate in South Carolina by a wide margin. Mia Love became the first black woman ever elected to the US House as a Republican in a Utah district that is only 1.4 percent black. William Hurd, a former CIA operative who is also of African-American descent, won a US House seat in San Antonio, TX in a district that is less than 3 percent black.

And when you look at who was elected, this ought to really upset the folks at Y’all Politics. Many of the new members of the House and the Senate could very well be charter members of the “mini-McDaniel” club, meaning they ran conservative campaigns and espoused conservative principles. And they did so by actually speaking to the voters and debating their opponents, putting their ideas before the people. In fact, every new Republican member of the US Senate pledged to repeal Obamacare during the campaign, unlike the establishment-run national party, which seems to be running away from that issue. Mississippi might have found out Cochran’s true position if he had actually talked to the voters.

In short, these folks campaigned and were elected to STOP OBAMA and roll back Washington, not to compromise and pile on more spending and more government. The Republican base is seeking fighters, not compromisers.

But sadly that’s what probably going to happen with the present leadership and some of the old bulls we keep sending up there. Within 24 hours Mitch McConnell was already capitulating to Harry Reid and Obama, vowing to work with theB1t3K9uCAAA2WJI other side and not to shut down the government over the debt ceiling. And by the way, to you establishment hacks, the previous government shutdown that you blamed on the Tea Party and Ted Cruz did not hurt Republicans in the election, as you said it would. As usual, you were all wrong again!

For conservatives, especially in Mississippi, now is the time to hold Republicans’ feet to the fire and watch them like a hawk, especially Mr. Cochran. Let’s see how he votes on the debt ceiling next year. Let’s see how he votes on Obamacare bills. Let’s see how he votes on spending, being the conservative champion we all heard he was. And let’s see how he votes on amnesty, especially given his backing by the Chamber of Commerce.  In short, let’s see which agenda emerges victorious, that of the leadership or these new, conservative members.  In the end, the leadership of both chambers might need to be overthrown.

As for me, my take on this election was said best by former congressman Ron Paul, who tweeted this soon after the election:

Well said indeed!

And, finally, as for the personal attack on me and others, here it is verbatim:

“Again, as we’ve said in the past, from the courthouse lock-in to the hijacked conference call to the nursing home photos to praying for God “to be violent against” their enemy . . . THIS IS WHO THESE PEOPLE ARE. These aren’t isolated incidents of bad behavior or poor judgment. These actions are a pattern and a true reflection of a very small band of very loud zealots. The numbers last night conclusively showed that a lot of self-identified Tea Party people could put principle over rhetoric as they came home largely (probably by an 80% margin) to support Cochran and the Republican Party.

So to the few of you that this applies to . . . Roy Nicholson, Ma Tea, Janis Lane, Ryan Walters, Don Tullos, Elaine Vechorik, Grant Sowell, Barry Neyrey & the South MS Tea Party folks, hear this. JUST GO AWAY. The Republican Party is not yours. You can’t have it. You can’t co-opt it. Go start your own party or better yet, go join Rickey Cole and the Democrats. He seems tickled to have you and I couldn’t think of a better fit for both of you. In fact, I’d be tickled to watch you join Rickey Cole only to continue to have you drive African American voters to the Republican Party.”

Why is it that the GOP establishment constantly refers to us as radicals, fanatics, extremists, and, Lange’s favorite term, zealots?  And these are terms that they never define.  And have you noticed that they never refer to Barack Obama as an extremist?  Why not?  Do they have more in common with him than with us?  Say, yes they do!

So here is some advice for Alan Lange:  Since you seem to like liberal Democrats more than true conservatives, then YOU join the Democratic Party!  And take Thad Cochran with you!  You have more in common with them anyway and would be a much better fit.  We aren’t going anywhere!  We are staying right where we are and will continue our fight for constitutional government until the Second Coming!  See you on the battlefield!

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Comments

  1. M. Pollard says:

    I hope I can live long enough to vote for Chris McDaniel again. Tho it was not counted, I wrote your name in.prayers for your family for the wrong done against your family. Hope I live long enough to vote for you and it be counted. I took your poster down Tuesday but hope to Display it again. Thankful to live in this great land, a choice land of America. Mary D. Pollard.

  2. P Tom Young says:

    Oh man, I couldn’t have said it better myself! GOD bless Chris McDaniel and all the Conservatives in this once great country. Stay the course and we will prevail. Never give up and never give in

    • Hey Mary & P Tom: Hold on to those posters. 2015 is just around the corner. McDaniel vs. Reeves would be an interesting race if he decides to stay in Mississippi and not join Sarah Palin as a Tea Party fund raiser. And you are so correct that we should all be thankful that we live in a secular democratic republic where we are free to choose how we live our lives without the State dictating in every way. Supporting candidates for office who embrace the principles of liberty is the key. The devil comes out when we get down to the details. Pappy

  3. I think this post was a good outline of how amazing Tuesday night was for conservatives, though I naturally disagree with a lot of the commentary (including Ron Paul’s remark). I also agree that conservatives need to make sure they pressure Republican leaders to pass conservative bills now that the Republicans have the power to at least put them on the President’s desk. However, I think it was wrong to imply that shutting down the government is a viable strategy. There are extreme cases where it’s necessary, but what happened last year did in fact hurt the Republicans at the time. I know this not simply because of polls but because I myself (a conservative) became upset. There was, at the time, no path to victory as the Republicans simply didn’t have the votes to succeed in stopping ObamaCare, they did not have the news media, and they nor the Tea Party seemed to be putting pressure on the few Democrats that could possibly have been pressured. The shutdown affected many Americans, including people I knew, and was all for nothing. I believe I recall that even Ted Cruz said victory on the issue was doubtful, which raised the question of why he called for the shutdown in the first place. That style of government was one of the things, in fact, that made me hesitate about Chris McDaniel. Going forward, the Republicans need to government constructively, especially since they now have the power to govern. They need to carefully outline their ideas, continue to convince the American people of the rightness of those ideas, and push Democrats into allowing conservative bills to pass. Shutting down the government, generally speaking, is not a good way to accomplish that goal.

  4. frank gordon says:

    Over 100 thousand good conservatives were so digusted with the MSGOP that they stayed home instead of voting in this election. That is a lesson the RINOs will never ever forget!

  5. William Smith says:

    Mr. Walters, you complain, and with some justification, about the terms used to describe you and the McDaniel devotees. You don’t like being called “radicals, fanatics, extremists, and… zealot.” But in some ways you bring this on yourself. You and your people referred constatnly to Senator Cochran as “liberal.” Those of us who have been conservative Republicans all our lives, have been called RINOs, progressives, establisment, not true conservatves, etc, etc. You apparently feel those are justified. But you are offended when negative terms are used about you. My suggestion, if you really want a better atmosphere and you really want to work within the Mississippi Republican Party, stop the attacks and stop using perjorative terms to descibe those with whom you disagree. Acknowledge that our tent is big enough for Thad Cochran and, if wants in, Chris McDaniel. Stop the attacks on Haley Barbour, Gov. Bryant, Lt. Gov. Tate Reeves, Greg Haper, the Executive Committee, et al. Tell people that there are some differences among conservatives in the MS Rep. Party that will continue to be discussed, but that we are all conservatives and in the end we are together. If you can’t do that, it really is time to go and form another party, rather than stay and continue to try to destroy what you did not build. Telll your followers to stop the attacks on fellow Republicans using terms like Cochroach, Boss Hog Barbour, etc. If you can’t do this, then go and take those who think and operate as you do with you. If you cannot do these things, then I will believe that the MS Republcan Party and the national Party, dodged a bullet in MS and that it contributed to the big gains across the country on Tuesday.

    • If you trace through elections over the past years it has always been the republican base here in Mississippi that has continuously come together after primarys to elect our nominees. However in this years primary, it was the established Republicans when threatened with loss of power who then attacked their own people and base and not just the candidate.
      The campaign directors and super pac funding folks began their attacks by labeling us as Tea Partiers (even though I don’t know any), radicals, extremists, rednecks, peckerwoods, non-progressives, racists, and any other term that they could place on Radio Ads, Robo-calls, Flyers, and any other campaign material as to label good conservatives as not being good for the party, the state, or the country. You had to be here in Mississippi to experience it so that you know it to be true and you got the feeling as to how the Republicans treated or were willing to treat their own supporters. Outsiders weren’t plastered with millions of dollars in advertising splashed over every media outlet they could find that tried to show a certain portion of Mississippians who were considering another candidate to be everything but Conservative, America Loving, Mississippi Loving Christians. So for outsiders to set in some other state and to not have experienced this election and to think that we should kneel down and let the Haley Barbours of the world decide what is best for us because we are not able to think for ourselves, well that’s not going to happen. We will continue to push for conservative values with our elected officials as is our right as the electorate. We have already began electing new officials at the county levels and the state elections are coming so the Mississippi established Republicans probably need to do some fence mending themselves and they already know it. As far as dodging a bullet, I think we helped awake a sleeping giant although still a little groggy.

      • Hey Michael: I have lived in Mississippi for almost 40 years. I am 60 years old. Dixiecrats, Birchers, Kluckers, skinheads, neo-Nazi, and white supremacists have always rallied around political leaders who preach a return to Traditional Mississippi Values while wrapping themselves up in the Stars and Bars. That is a historical fact that is not going away, nor will it ever be ignored by the public, the press, and other candidates. Therefore, any political candidate who campaigns accordingly does so at his/her peril. As a successful and experienced trial attorney, The Anointed One is well aware of the power that words and symbols have on people at the level of consciousness. That’s one reason that many McGOPers feel so interconnected. For them, this campaign was never about a Senate race. Rather, it was about believing in, supporting, and giving one’s heart to their New Messiah. Who knows, now that he has been “crucified” as some of you have alleged, if he is seem once again among the living, those same people will declare that he has arisen. Then they can start a new religious faith–“Chrissianity”. His followers will be transformed from McGOPers to “Chissians”. That’s the ticket!
        Pappy

    • You think calling someone a “liberal” is the same as an extremist or a fanatic? Not even close. A liberal is simply someone who believes that government is the answer to our problems. Did Cochran not convey that message over and over again during the primary? Yet the term “fanatic” or “extremist” or “zealot,” which they never define, is meant to align conservatives and tea partiers with terrorists and anarchists.

      My point was this: why does the establishment always call us those things (just like the Left does I might add) but never Obama and Liberal Democrats. You can’t be any more of a fanatical ideologue than Obama but they won’t say that about him, only us. That’s what is really disturbing!

      And wanting to throw us out of the party. If the conservative base left the party, then the GOP is dead politically! The idiots ought to understand that.

      • William Smith says:

        No. Thad Cochran is not a liberal, nor is Haley Barbour, Phil Bryant, Tate Reeves, Roger Wicker, Greg Harper, et al. Telling the same untruth over and over doe not move it an inch closer to the truth. The more I have watched McDaniel I tempted to look upon him as a zealot and/or fanatic and pershaps at times an extremist. Unfortunately not a few of his followers are that and more. Nobody wants you to leave the Party. But, if like McDaniel, you cannot move on, find a way to reconcile with the Party leadership, and be willing to work within, with, and for the Party, then that is what you may have to do. You are not going to succeed is wresting Party away from those you over and over again refer to as the establishment. So do you want in or out? There is no such thing as he conservative base leaving the Party for two reasons: 1. Most of those whom you call the “conservative base” by which you really mean McDaniel voters have no desire to leave the Party. 2. More important there is no such thing as a liberal in the MS R Party. The whole Party consists of conservatives. I don’t know what future there is in the MS R Party for McDaniel. He has burned his bridges, alienated the leadership, caused the majority of MS Rs to grow weary of him. But I would like him to stay. I would like for you to stay. But can you come to terms with reality? Can you move from insurgent to mature political participant? As has been proved in this past election cycle, the leadership of the Party does not consist of idiots. It is made up of savvy politicians who know how things work. It is quite possible that they had quite a lot to do with the R victory across the nation because the R Party put up candidates who could win and then govern. The grownups are back in town. Now, go ahead, make my day. Call me a liberal.

      • Hey Ryan: I have referred to some of the McGOPers as anarchists based upon their stated intentions of not voting for Cochran on November 4 in their hope that an LBJ-Great Society, progressive, big government liberal like Travis Childers would be elected to take his place. That type of nihilistic attitude is zealotry to the point of anarchy. This is especially true by their stated desire to see the MS GOP Establishment destroyed. As I have said before, these folks are the lint that clings to the fringe that surrounds the base of the Republican Party. They are welcome to contribute to the Party in a constructive manner. However, they will never be allowed to take control of the Party. William Smith is absolutely correct on this. If they cannot accept the Party as it is within the natural evolution of any political process, then they need to join other anarchists like Shawn O’Ohara and go their own way. To be sure, there are certain aspects of the MS GOP with which I take issue. However, I know that I can’t expect our political leaders to agree with my position on every topic all of the time.
        Pappy

  6. William Smith says:

    Michael I know a little about MS and MS politics having spent 25 years in the state only a little over a year ago moving to VA. I continue to have a great interet in MS and its politics. As I point out above to Mr. Walters, if you don’t want to be mischaracterized then don’t mischaracterize others. Mr. McDaniel came out f the gate saying Thad Cochran was a liberal, a untruth which he knew was an untruth. Since then all sorts of things have been slung at conservative Republicans who supported Thad Cochran – they are not “true conservatives”, they are progressive, they are really Democrats. they are part of the evil estabishment and of the Barbour machine, they have pulled the country down, the are liars, cheatter, thieves, etc. I am offended be these untruths be spoken about and to me. So, again, if you don’t want epithets thrown at you , don’t throw them at others.

    As to your taking over the Party or “taking it back” (back to where? certainly not back to wha the MS Rep Party has always been), it’s not gonna happem. You might win a skirmish here or there maybe evern a battle or two, but you wont’ win the war. Most MS Republicans are satisfied with the leadership and are not going to be part of tearing down what was built by the sacrifce and hard work that others contributed to make the Party succesful. I think if you wan to work with and withn the Party, fine. If you want to tear things us, go start your own and tear it up.

  7. Smitty…you’ve got it all wrong. From top to bottom. If it bothers you that we say unkind things about Haley Barbour, Tator Reeves, Cochran et al. it is for a very, very good and justifiable reason. They tricked, cajoled, THREATENED, handed out money to BUY votes, and called in every favor possible and then spoke lies…ABSOLUTE LIES about not only McDaniel but good folks who supported him. It was strong-arm bullying like we have not seen in decades. Didn’t you wonder why no elected officials in the entire state stepped up to support McD? Barbour today couldn’t get elected dog catcher in a one may race! We all know for a fact that THE MAJORITY OF GOP VOTERS VOTED FOR CHRIS! But strange how he lost the race. And as for Thad…..he was a good senator for our state for many years but he drifted off course and has not been in touch with the ideology of voters for several years and is painfully embarrassing as the King of Pork. Didn’t you see the numerous affidavits outlining the gross mishandling of ballots; voter irregularities, missing absentee applications, open ballot boxes! We keep relating the truth and you keep denying there is proof. It was rigged Smitty; it was a race in which there were too many folks who had a big vested interested in seeing Cochran remain and did not want to lose their meal ticket. They lied, stole, rigged, race-baited, and still you think we have no cause to want to fight back. We are not folks who are bigots, not racist, not rigid on social issues but instead we, like the many, many voters who sent the Democrats packing all across the country on Tuesday, we want our Country back. We want the huge national debt reduced; we want a balanced budget for Congress; we want our borders closed and a sensible system of immigration enforced. We want smaller government, which means we don’t want encroaching government control over all aspects of our lives from the scandalous IRS to the punitive EPA. Cochran has not been part of the solution for many years now and has become part of the problem. We need a true Conservative….but we will soon get Gregg Harper instead who must be willing to fall in line with all of Cochran’s hangers-on so that he can be appointed as soon as Thad is not able to continue. I am a very open minded person…opinionated yes, but based on facts, history, principles and the desire to further Capitalism/Conservatism above all else. In the beginning I thought perhaps you were a paid heckler…a Democrat in disguise of a Republican. Now I believe you just don’t know, can’t grasp the depth of dishonor we are so trying to change. Again: We are living in the most lawless era of modern times. Why else is there no recourse for illegal voting?
    Perhaps you need to come back and visit for a week and hear the truth instead of joining the bad guys in condemning Conservatives and McDaniel supporters.

    • Catty, according to The Anointed One’s legislative colleagues with whom I have spoken, except for his small inner circle, his legislative colleagues consider him to be a demagogic, narcissistic self-promoter whose only interest is in promoting and drawing attention to himself; and that due to his considerable speaking skills he is able to prey upon those in society who are the most vulnerable to his Elmer Gantry-like mannerisms. Even prior to the U.S. Senate campaign, he suffered a higher than average absentee rate when the legislature was in session. Other senators view him to be more of a nuisance, than as a constructive colleague. Therefore, under such circumstances why would anyone expect other members of the MSGOP leadership to support Chris in his campaign to unseat Thad Cochran?
      Pappy
      Pappy

      • Tom Casey says:

        Pappy, It appears that you have an accurate assessment of Chris. The Tea Party activities, such as breaking in a nursing home and courthouse for nefarious conduct, doesn’t exactly convince many folks that they are not dishonest radicals. I don’t recall a Tea Party backed candidate winning a US Senate race any where. Chris unfortunately follows in the footsteps of the Michelle Bachmann mode and is considered by most to be off the charts from an ideology standpoint. Of course that may have been slanted in that direction by all the out of state money Chris received to mount his campaign. It smelled Koch brothers type operation from the beginning since Chris received very little in state financial support from what I could tell. It just seems like Chris was more interested in self glorification than governing in a manner to best support the interest of the people of Mississippi.

  8. IMissNixon says:

    Great analysis/post by Mr. Walters. I do hope that in the future it won’t take little-known websites (like the one he mentioned) to motivate him to write! Hopefully posting on the greatest MS political website ever (MCD) will be motivation enough! My greatest concern at this point is not what the lame MSGOP establishment (and their sycophantic minions lurking on the interweb) think about MS conservatives; my concern is akin to Ron Paul’s-that there are still too many RINO Thuds in DC to effect any meaningful change. There is every possibility that under the weak liberal leadership of McConnell, Boehner, and their ‘don’t rock the boat’ followers that the GOP could easily squander a rare and unique opportunity in this country’s history. There are still too many visionless, self-interested, lifetime politicians like Thud who expend their energies and treasure on getting reelected and retaining power for themselves and their owners. But hey, there’s really nothing better having Thud as chair of Appropriations, right?

  9. IMissNixon says:

    catty14;
    Keep fighting the good fight and just ignore the regulars who post here and continually offer flawed analysis, false statements, twisted facts, and ad hominem arguments. Just remember it’s their day job-it’s what they do. Chris and his supporters, as well as this MCD website, are living in their heads and driving them crazy. They know the truth, but it ain’t settin’ ’em free.

  10. Hey Guys: Please allow me to ask a hypothetical question. If Chris decides to run for statewide public office in 2015, and ends up getting defeated convincingly in the GOP primary, what kind of political future do you all believe he will have in Mississippi? What will happen to his message? Where will his supporters go?
    Pappy

  11. William Smith says:

    Chatty: “Didn’t you wonder why no elected officials in the entire state stepped up to support McD? ” : Welll Melaine Sojourner did. But otherwise I don’t wonder. They have experience him and know him. They did not want him to be their Senator. I undestand that because I fetl the same way from the day he announced, and my concerns abotu him grew and grew throught the campaign, and its aftermath. I was relieved when he lost the runoff. Had he won that runoff I would have been for him to win the election because I wanted the Rs to take the Senate. But he would have undergone even more close scrutiny, and I think he was beatable. I also think he would have been a drag on Rs across the country and woulld have been a disruptive, not effective, member of the Senate.

    “…we, like the many, many voters who sent the Democrats packing all across the country on Tuesday, we want our Country back.” First, the voters who sent the Democrats packing voted mostly for Rs you woulld not consider “true conservatives.” In fact part of what happend nationwide, which you so resent having happened in MS, is that the Party did nto want to have more cases like MO and IN 2012 Senate candidates. They wanted candidates who could win and then govern. And that’s what we got. The ones elected are going to be able to work with people like McConnell and Cochran to get things done. There is not one McDaniel among them. (In fact McD worked against the R who made the runoff against Landrieu and likely willl replace her). The Tea Party types were defeaed in primaries, and conservative Rs won and took back the Senate

    “…but we will soon get Gregg Harper…” I have no reason to think Sen. Cochran won’t finish his term, but should he not, I would be thrilled to see Greg Harper in his place. Greg is a solid conservative and a good man.

    ” In the beginning I thought perhaps you were a paid heckler…a Democrat in disguise of a Republican. Now I believe you just don’t know, can’t grasp the depth of dishonor we are so trying to change.” What this shows is how little you know me or the majority of Rs in MS. You suspect a D because I do not agree with you and because I was for Cochran. The problem here is that I think you are wrong, and it is inconceivable to you that a consevative R would think you wrong.

    “Why else is there no recourse for illegal voting?” You keep aserting that there was illegal voting and there has been no proof of that. Were there any illegal votes? I am sure there were as there are in any election Was there fraud? No. Was the election stolen? No. Did McDaniel win? No. Did Ccchran win the runoff and the general election? Yes. Is he MS’s legally elected Senator? Yes.

    “instead of joining the bad guys in condemning Conservatives and McDaniel supporters.” I have not joined the bad guys. I am not condemning conservatives because I am one.I am part ot the Republican majoirty. My disapproval of McDaniel votters has to do with with thie uninformed, untrue, and intemperate words as a brief visit to the McDaniel facebook pages willl quickly demonstrate. As I have said before, MS dodged a bullet and I am glad for it.

    Maybe McDaniel has a future in MS politics. My guess would be that he does not. But, if he is to have any hope of a future he is going to havet to walk back all this untrue talk about the rest of us being liberals, progressives, and bad guys. He is going to have to learn to work within and with the Party and, yes, he is going to have to try to make up with the MS Republican leadership.

  12. William Smith says:

    Miss Richard: The only Thud is the thud of McDaniel and his most rabid followers crashing. That is what happenend, and MS was spared.

    As to folks like you being in my head, believe me if I had the slightest suspicion of that, I would admit myself to the psych ward as soon as I could get there. I would demand shock therapy.

    I got the truth, and, now with Sen Cochran and conservatives liike him elected all over the country, I am free at last! Free of the spectre of the (un)true conservatives!

  13. O.K. Smitty I tried and failed to find any redeeming value in your position. So I quit….quit trying to be logical, sensible, honest and direct. All bets are off with you. You sound old and out of touch. You keep saying there is no proof of any illegal voting when we have tons of proof in sworn affidavits. You are a closed book….A crystalized mind unable to entertain a fresh idea or a new concept. It is impossible to communicate with someone who doesn’t live in the vicinity of reality. The Barbour/Cochran folks must be paying you by the word. But be careful… remember they stiffed a couple of guys they were suppose to pay for bribing Democrats to vote for Cochran..

  14. William Smith says:

    Chatty, you do put a smile on my old face and amuse my senile brain. I don’t get out much, but with your help I can sit here with a blanket over my knees, and without risking a chill, be entertained. It’s good to know you are a true compassionate conservative.

  15. People who claim there is “no proof” of illegal votes need to understand: the rules that were imposed on McDaniel by and large prohibited him from collecting such proof.

    For example: if you read the affidavits that McDaniel filed, you will discover numerous (hundreds) of reports of clearly illegal absentee ballots that were counted. Ballots that weren’t witnessed. Ballots that weren’t signed by the voter.

    These are illegal ballots. However, technically, McDaniel doesn’t have “proof” of those illegal votes, because he was prohibited from obtaining copies of the actual incriminating documents when he examined the ballot boxes.

    So now we have numerous, credible reports of illegal votes cast, and yet we don’t have any “proof.”

    Also, it is just a fact of life, that in Mississippi, there is no workable method to investigate election misconduct whereby citizens or even experts, such as myself, can get access to the documents necessary to prepare formal proof.

    JUst to give you an example: in my county, in a judicial race, one candidate got less than 50% of the voting machine vote. However, that candidate got 3 out of every 4 absentee ballots!

    That is a real red flag that absentee ballot fraud should be investigated.

    However, nobody will be able to investigate the matter, except the losing candidate, and he won’t have the resources or expertise to do so. I won’t be allowed to. The police will refuse to. The AG will refuse to.

    And so there it is: good indications of illegal absentee voting, and no way to bring it to light and get it dealt with. And this type scenario repeats itself over and over again, ever single election cycle. If only the public really knew how much illegal voting takes place, and is never even looked into. And can never be looked into, by people who are concerned about it.

    And, with the new draconian interpretation of “privacy” for the voting rolls, experts like me will be barred from access to the documents necessary to prove other types of illegal votes as well.

    The system is so bad, that it almost appears that it was designed to conceal illegal voting, rather than to expose it.

  16. Rick Sanders says:

    I stayed quiet about this opinion for a long time because I didn’t want to hurt the Tea Party guy, but . . .

    McDaniel was unfairly targeted, yes, but I actually listened to him on the radio back in the day and can’t find it within myself to accept him as a glorified martyr.

    Frankly, he wasn’t very good . . . not in a radio sense (though he had the most sniveling voice ever), but just in a sense sense. On the radio, going from the comedic and logical genius of Beck and Limbaugh to the comparative dolt Hannity was a letdown, and then when McDaniel came on it was like the bottom fell out. Some people are described as empty suits? Well, those were unmanned mics. He and the sidekick promised “strict scrutiny” of liberal ideas, but on its best day it was a pale regurgitation of the shows that preceded it, with nothing original or particularly relevant or even really Mississippian besides accents.

    I have no doubt McDaniel would’ve voted the right way if it were explained to him what the right way was, but I never had the sense that he really understood the underlying concepts enough to apply them on his own. It was torture to hear him take callers. And I just can’t see that snivelly voice and emptily-arrogant demeanor, unattractive even to this political ally, gaining any traction with folks in DC.

    And while I don’t recall any specifics, I do recall thinking at the time that the border of good taste was skirted from time to time insofar as race and such, so I can certainly see where there might’ve been fodder for attack, fair or otherwise.

    The Cochran campaign that brought in Democrats can still go right to hell, mind you. And the Republican Party establishment can go with them. Their silent-running plan worked this time, but it required they eat their own, so it was still stupid because now the conservatives know the Republicrats will target them at a whim, and we’re the ones with the longest memories.

    But still, McDaniel was a flawed candidate, and Mississippi conservatives can do better.

    • Hey Rick: Thanks for having the courage of sharing your thoughts and convictions as candidly as you have done. Since you claim to be a non-Establishment conservative, we can only hope that the McGOPers will take off their blinders and try to move on.
      Pappy

  17. William Smith says:

    John, what I am saying is that there is no legally accepeted evidence or proof that there were illegal votes. The rules imposed on McDaniel were not peculiar to hiim. They would have ben the came had it been Cochran challenging – which I am certain he would not have done, because he is a mature politician. Nixon conceded when there was evidence of enough fraud in the Chicago area as to have made IL go to Kennedy. Just yesterday Ed Gillespie chose not to put the state or his supporters through a vote recount. I am just not convinced of the amount of corruption in MS you seem to think is rampant. But, if you want closer review, get the law changed.

  18. Bill, the rules were changed this year, in the way that they were interpreted and enforced. In all my days conducting many, many ballot box inspections, not once was I refused access to complete, unredacted poll books.

    The interpretation and enforcement of the redaction requirement was a new thing as far as my extensive experience is concerned.

    As recently as last October, I was provided unredacted access to pollbooks and voter registration rolls in a contest I led. The election was overturned by the court, and would not have been so had the McDaniel rules been enforced against my client.

    The hiding of voting records, which took place thanks to the partisan efforts of people during this election cycle, has drastically damaged the ability candidates formerly had to discover and prosecute illegal voting.

    • Hey John: Thanks for the insights. If the courts interpreted what to disclose of the poll book information in order to limit personal information and to protect the privacy rights of the voters, what can be wrong with that? I admit that I have no experience in conducting election contests, or in inspecting poll books, etc. I think that it would be of great benefit if you explain in detail what you have summarized.
      Thanks, Pappy

      • Saltwaterpappy,

        I published an extensive memorandum detailing many of the reasons why birthdate information is essential for the discovery of illegal votes and a thorough investigation of an election.

        Here’s that memo: Birthdate Memo

        In addition, the new restrictive requirement that poll books be redacted would cost a state-wide candidate somewhere in the neighborhood of $100,000 to obtain them, a prohibitive cost.

        In many ballot box examinations, the clerks wouldn’t permit the examiners to view the poll books while they were examining the ballot boxes. That means that comparisons, look-ups of voters to see whether they were marked, whether they voted more than once in different precincts, etc. was rendered impossible.

        As I said: I’ve examined hundreds of ballot boxes in my professional work, and I’ve never been prohibited from reviewing the poll books during such examinations. The redaction requirement is not only not in the statute, but it is unworkable in practice.

        These and other matters did severely restrict McDaniel’s examinations and investigation, and sadly, will continue to frustrate the full investigation and discovery of illegal voting in all future elections.

      • Re: protecting the voters privacy

        Remember, thousands and thousands of election workers have full and unrestricted access to the birthdate information on election day as they work at polls across the state.

        Obviously, birthdates are critical to the conduct of an election, and all the election workers and officials and county executive committee members must have access to them to properly conduct the election.

        In like manner, the candidates examining ballot boxes and conducting election investigations play a crucial role in making sure our elections are run fairly and according to the law. They need the same access to the same records as are used to run the election.

        The notion that birthdates are “private information” is belied by the fact that birthdates are all over the place, are public, and not particularly sensitive. It is SSNs that are the sensitive information.

        You might be interested to know that candidates do have access to the birthdates that appear on records inside the ballot boxes when they examine them. There is far more personally sensitive information on those materials that the candidate does have access to when he examines the ballot box. So the idea that candidates need to be restricted from viewing birthdate info on the poll books is misplaced. I explain this inconsistency in my memo, as well as the curious manner in which it came about.

  19. It is a very sad commentary on the fairness and transparency of our election system, that a candidate can spend untold thousands of dollars and thousands of man-hours investigating an election, and under the new draconian enforcement of interpretations of the election law, end up with no evidence of illegal voting in hand – even though substantial parts of the evidence were actually seen and memorialized him.

    And what is worse is that people gloat about that. We should all weep that our election system has been so undermined by partisan agendas that now it becomes almost impossible to obtain concrete evidence of illegal voting.

    That is a real shame, and it is a shame when people rub that fact into the noses of the people who supported the candidate who tried to investigate the election.

    • John, thanks for sharing the birthdate memo. That is quite a piece of work product on your part. What you say makes sense. However, with voter ID having been in place this time, didn’t that address the concerns you have raised at the front end? Why do you suppose the legislature enacted laws to limit what had been a standard post-election practice? Given your experience and expertise, what recommendations do you have for lawmakers to amend the statutes to make the inspection process more accessible to campaigns, without imposing on voters’ privacy rights? Thanks, Pappy

      • Voter ID doesn’t play much, if any, role at all in the issues that I raised in my birthdate memorandum. Voter ID is meant to cure the problem of voter impersonation. It doesn’t impact any other issues than that.

        The legislature did not knowingly enact any laws that changed access to birthdate info by investigating candidates. Access to voting records for a candidate investigating an election was never considered a “public records” matter – and the law being imposed now is a public records issue. Candidates always had access to records that the public did not have access to – by statute and by common practice.

        It wasn’t until THIS RACE that the common practice was set aside. Now, the candidates’ access to election records is being subjected to the more strict “public records” requirements.

        And again: I dispute that there is a legitimate “privacy interest” in birthdate information for the voters. We are all required to disclose our birthdates in a host of situations, and they are readily available in all sorts of commercial records.

        What the legislature should do, is amend 23-15-911 to make explicit what used to be common practice: that candidates conducting ballot box examinations and preparing or engaging in an election contest shall have free access to all voting records without redaction, and that they should be allowed to make copies of them at cost.

  20. Thanks Mr. Hey. Thanks IMIssNixon. I am exhausted. It’s like trying to explain daylight to a blind person, or worse. Hell, maybe they really are paying him by the word!!!!

  21. William Smith says:

    LittleMissRichard and ChattyCathy: Does it ever occur to you that the problem may not be the blindness on the part of another person but the lack of cogent and compelling argument on your parts? BTW, they do not pay me, though if they wish I am willing to go on the take. So far I do it only in pursuit of truth, justice, and the American way. BTW I did not know that ladies say, Hell.

  22. A D Boutwell says:

    McDaniel has never been wrong… if you think he has… just ask him… he’ll straighten you out…

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